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I've been in IT for over 25 years...as a Contractor. I currently have PMP and ITIL certifications (and some others like Oracle DBA, IBM, CompTIA).
I might look into the ISEB, BA part because even though I am a project Project Manager I wear many hats (PM, BA, SA, Programmer) to get the projects done....However I can't use any of the experience that I used to get the PMP towards the CBAP.
According to the rules: "Activities that are not acceptable include: Project Management". This is kinda of Odd, because a PM does much more than just plugging numbers into MS Project. I have to facilitate meetings to get Business Requirements, Business Rules, Write Specifications, flow diagrams.....etc. But because my main position on the project is a PM, I can't use that stuff. You just can't get by knowing one thing today, you have to be basically a Jack-Of-All-Trades and take the project from a Vision to Roll-out.
So, I dropped out of being a member of IIBA. No sense paying for membership if I can't use them.
I will look into this ISEB further.....every little bit helps when you look for your next contract.
http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=nav.5732
Thanks for the information here.....you are never done learning.
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| CMERSER wrote
I've been in IT for over 25 years...as a Contractor. I currently have PMP and ITIL certifications (and some others like Oracle DBA, IBM, CompTIA).
I might look into the ISEB, BA part because even though I am a project Project Manager I wear many hats (PM, BA, SA, Programmer) to get the projects done....However I can't use any of the experience that I used to get the PMP towards the CBAP.
According to the rules: "Activities that are not acceptable include: Project Management". This is kinda of Odd, because a PM does much more than just plugging numbers into MS Project. I have to facilitate meetings to get Business Requirements, Business Rules, Write Specifications, flow diagrams.....etc. But because my main position on the project is a PM, I can't use that stuff. You just can't get by knowing one thing today, you have to be basically a Jack-Of-All-Trades and take the project from a Vision to Roll-out.
So, I dropped out of being a member of IIBA. No sense paying for membership if I can't use them.
I will look into this ISEB further.....every little bit helps when you look for your next contract.
http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=nav.5732
Thanks for the information here.....you are never done learning.
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Cmerser,
If what you are saying about the IIBA is right I am awestruck by the arrogance of it. Of course Project Managers do analysis - so do systems analysts, systems designers, coders, testers, implementors. Analysis is a logical process for deconstructing a problem in to constituent parts to define them and the inter-relationships between them and to infer (preferably deduce) new facts from them such as for example process change requirements. So what is a project plan then with products and dependencies if not analysis of the scheduling requirements for a project?
Analysis is analysis and is not the exclusive preserve of business analysts and certainly not the IIBA!
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Here it is from the IIBA
Activities that are not acceptable include:
• Non-supervisory management of business analysis activities (e.g., resource management, status reporting, performance management, etc.).
• Teaching of business analysis training courses.
• Selling requirements tools/software.
• Project Management
• Testing (e.g., creating and executing test scripts, reporting on testing status, creating test plans/strategies, etc.)
• Programming
Look at: "5.0 CBAP® Certification Requirements"
http://www.theiiba.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Certification/Process/CBAP_Handbook_Dec2009.pdf |
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CMERSER wrote
I've been in IT for over 25 years...as a Contractor. I currently have PMP and ITIL certifications (and some others like Oracle DBA, IBM, CompTIA).
I might look into the ISEB, BA part because even though I am a project Project Manager I wear many hats (PM, BA, SA, Programmer) to get the projects done....However I can't use any of the experience that I used to get the PMP towards the CBAP.
According to the rules: "Activities that are not acceptable include: Project Management". This is kinda of Odd, because a PM does much more than just plugging numbers into MS Project. I have to facilitate meetings to get Business Requirements, Business Rules, Write Specifications, flow diagrams.....etc. But because my main position on the project is a PM, I can't use that stuff. You just can't get by knowing one thing today, you have to be basically a Jack-Of-All-Trades and take the project from a Vision to Roll-out.
So, I dropped out of being a member of IIBA. No sense paying for membership if I can't use them.
I will look into this ISEB further.....every little bit helps when you look for your next contract.
http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=nav.5732
Thanks for the information here.....you are never done learning.
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You might want to take a closer look at the actual CBAP requirements, along with taking a look at your resume through a BA rather than PM lens.
The point is not what your title was, it is what tasks you performed. Facilitating meetings to elicit requirements, documenting business rules, writing specifications, and creating flow diagrams are all BA activities, whether your title is BA or PM or programmer or tech writer or administrative assistant. The PMP requirements are similar; even if your title was PM, programming tasks don't count.
I successfully applied for the CBAP, was accepted (and, incidentally, passed) with experience that did not include a BA title for most of my assignments, but the BA tasks I performed under software tester and project manager categories counted toward the required hours.
Hope that helps,
Sue
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<I successfully applied for the CBAP, was accepted (and, incidentally, passed)>
Congratulations...on passing.
I'll go back over the requirements and maybe break apart the various projects into PM and BA responsibilities and see what I get from that.
Thanks
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