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User is offline ashley cruz
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Getting back on track as BA 
I have been an immigrant here in Toronto for almost 3 years now. I am currently working as an administrative assistant in an insurance company. Back in my home country, I have been working as a business analyst/project manager in an insurance company for more than 5 years. However, since we got here, I could not find work as a business analyst. No company would even consider me for any position as such. I am now at a loss on what to do so I can get back on track as a business analyst. I wish to upgrade my skills too but am not sure what course to take. I would also be willing to start as a trainee just so I can experience how to work as one here in Canada, particularly maybe in the insurance industry since I have worked in this industry for 15 years. Are there companies that take in trainees or newbies in the field without the experience here in Canada? I hope you can advice me on what to do. Thanks so much.
 
New Post 2/14/2008 3:16 PM
User is offline Adrian M.
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Re: Getting back on track as BA 

Hi Ashley,

First of all, don't get discouraged!  You are doing the right first step: getting advice...

To provide you with better feedback, here are a couple of questions:

- in your home country, what did you actually do as a business analysts (what tasks and activities),

- what business analysis/project management tools and techniques are you familiar and proficient with (activity diagram, sequence diagrams, use cases, etc.),

- what does your resume look like, is it geared towards a business analysis position?

In the meantime, consider checking out the Toronto chapter of the IIBA (International Institute of Business Analysis) - you might even want to join the IIBA as it would look good on your resume.  Being an active member of business analysis communities such as ModernAnalyst.com would also be a good thing.

Wishing you the best!

- Adrian


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New Post 2/14/2008 4:24 PM
User is offline Craig Brown
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Re: Getting back on track as BA 

 adrian wrote

In the meantime, consider checking out the Toronto chapter of the IIBA (International Institute of Business Analysis) - you might even want to join the IIBA as it would look good on your resume.  Being an active member of business analysis communities such as ModernAnalyst.com would also be a good thing.

 

Anyone got their ModernAnalyst membership on their resume yet?

 
New Post 2/22/2008 8:43 AM
User is offline ashley cruz
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Re: Getting back on track as BA 

Hi Adrian. 

Thank you so much for answering my post. 

Yes, the first step is really getting advice, especially since I am in a different country now. My only regret is I haven't done it sooner.  The longer it takes to get a job as a business analyst, the harder it is for me to get back in this career path.  I guess my concern when we got here in Canada was to just get a job, any job, just to be able to survive in a new country, But now that we have somehow adjusted to the life here, I felt that I need to concentrate on my career now,  My resume before was kind of general, just finding a job that would be suited to any position available in the company I was applying for.  I guess because I wasn't that keen yet on looking for the BA position as I was afraid that I won't be considered for the job given that I am new here.

I think one of my apprehensions aslo at applying for a BA position is the fact that the tools and techniques that I know are not sufficient to the positions available.  I never had any formal training as a BA.  The tools that we had I learned mostly on the job, and I am not sure if these are the conventional tools used in other companies.  As a BA in the company I used to work for, we have conducted interviews with the users to determine their requirements, prepared business process charts and program specifications,  performed/supervised user testing, prepared  procedures manuals and business forms, and also conducted user trainings on the new systems that were introduced.  However, with regard to the specific tools and techniques used, I am not aware if these are are structured as what other business analysts are using.  How will I go about reviewing these conventional tools and techniques?  Some of these we might have been using, but I am just not familiar with how they call them.

I'll try to see the Toronto Chapter of the IIBA, althoug right now I do not know if I can maximize the membership since I am not yet in that career.   I guess what I want right now is be able to look for a company that can take in junior BA's or trainees or maybe courses that I can take to upgrade my skills.  Would yo uhave any suggestions? Am I in the right forum though to be asking these questions? Thanks again!

Ashley

 

 
New Post 2/22/2008 6:01 PM
User is offline Chris Adams
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Re: Getting back on track as BA 
Modified By Chris Adams  on 3/3/2008 5:59:13 PM)

 ashleycruz wrote

Hi Adrian. 

Thank you so much for answering my post. 

Yes, the first step is really getting advice, especially since I am in a different country now. My only regret is I haven't done it sooner.  The longer it takes to get a job as a business analyst, the harder it is for me to get back in this career path.  I guess my concern when we got here in Canada was to just get a job, any job, just to be able to survive in a new country, But now that we have somehow adjusted to the life here, I felt that I need to concentrate on my career now,  My resume before was kind of general, just finding a job that would be suited to any position available in the company I was applying for.  I guess because I wasn't that keen yet on looking for the BA position as I was afraid that I won't be considered for the job given that I am new here.

I think one of my apprehensions aslo at applying for a BA position is the fact that the tools and techniques that I know are not sufficient to the positions available.  I never had any formal training as a BA.  The tools that we had I learned mostly on the job, and I am not sure if these are the conventional tools used in other companies.  As a BA in the company I used to work for, we have conducted interviews with the users to determine their requirements, prepared business process charts and program specifications,  performed/supervised user testing, prepared  procedures manuals and business forms, and also conducted user trainings on the new systems that were introduced.  However, with regard to the specific tools and techniques used, I am not aware if these are are structured as what other business analysts are using.  How will I go about reviewing these conventional tools and techniques?  Some of these we might have been using, but I am just not familiar with how they call them.

I'll try to see the Toronto Chapter of the IIBA, althoug right now I do not know if I can maximize the membership since I am not yet in that career.   I guess what I want right now is be able to look for a company that can take in junior BA's or trainees or maybe courses that I can take to upgrade my skills.  Would yo uhave any suggestions? Am I in the right forum though to be asking these questions? Thanks again!

Ashley

Ashley,

There are a lot of Business Analysts working today that don't have formal training. Probably too many.  But that is good news for you.  You have on the job training which is good.  You just need to take a few steps to learn and understand the standard processes and tools used by experienced business analysts.  Places like ModernAnalyst.com and the IIBA are a great start.  Also, take the time to read some books on process modeling, use case modeling, and requirements management.  This will help you gain confidence in yourself with the experience you do have, and also help you understand what the standard names are for various tools and processes. 

If you do this you will be far ahead of MOST of the business analysts out there working today.  Trust me I know.  I've interview a lot of them and most haven't taken the time to read a book or learn more about the profession in which they work.


Chris Adams
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